Fox News host Tucker Carlson has a reputation for being level-headed and logical, especially when dealing with controversial topics.
The usually calm pundit lost his cool Tuesday evening, however, after a politically motivated Hispanic advocate openly suggested that Carlson was a racist.
Carlson’s topic was MS-13, a violent Salvadorian gang that became even more infamous after President Donald Trump referred to its members as “animals.”
“Less than 10 miles from the White House, a middle school is being terrorized by MS-13,” Carlson said in introducing the segment. “It’s called William Wirt Middle School, and it’s one of many whose makeup has been changed entirely and almost overnight by mass settlement of unaccompanied minors entering this country from Latin America.”
The Fox host referenced a recent Washington Post article, which went into detail about the living nightmare that is occurring after young illegal aliens essentially imported MS-13 gang culture to the east coast.
“Gang-related fights are now a near-daily occurrence at Wirt, where a small group of suspected MS-13 members at the overwhelmingly Hispanic school in Prince George’s County throw gang signs, sell drugs, draw gang graffiti and aggressively recruit students recently arrived from Central America,” the Post reported.
“Teachers feel threatened but aren’t backed up. Students feel threatened but aren’t protected,” one educator told the respected newspaper. “The school is a ticking time bomb.”
Jose Aristimuño, the former deputy national press secretary for the Democratic National Committee, was invited by Carlson to debate the issue — but the segment quickly turned personal.
“First we were told (MS-13) don’t really exist — it’s a figment of our racist imagination. Then we were told to attack them and call them names is immoral, because they’re good people,” Carlson said, referencing the hoopla over Trump’s “animals” comment about the gang.
“Now we have The Washington Post telling us in detail about how they’ve destroyed this middle school and are terrorizing the students. Are we allowed to acknowledge that, or are we bigots for doing so?” he asked Aristimuño.
Rather than beginning a civilized discussion about options for dealing with the rising Hispanic gang problem, Aristimuño instead lashed out at Carlson and conservatives.
“Part of the issue here, Tucker, is that people like yourself and some Republicans want to pinpoint and just simply say because your first name’s Jose, or you’re Latino like me, I’m automatically an MS-13 gang member,” Aristimuño declared.
In other words, the guest blatantly called the host of the program a racist and put bigoted words in his mouth.
Carlson wasn’t having any of it.
“You’re a ridiculous person for saying that,” Carlson responded. “I’ve never suggested anything like that, it’s appalling that you would say that, I don’t think that and I’ve never suggested it. You’re speaking a lie, and not for the first time.”
Becoming visibly agitated, Carlson reiterated that the segment was about a national news story, not imagined racism.
“What I said is what I read in the Washington Post, which is self-identified gang members are destroying the school and terrorizing people,” Carlson said. “Nobody has said that the majority of immigrants are criminals or bad. I’m not saying that, I don’t think it –“
“The president has said that,” Aristimuño spat out.
“He has not said that,” Carlson shot back. “You’re lying for political gain.”
Trying his best to steer the discussion back into civilized territory, Carlson summarized the problem and gave his guest another chance to respond.
“We don’t know who is coming in this country, we don’t know anything about them … and some of them are bad people,” Carlson said. “You need to stop the ability of employers to hire cheaper people because they’re here illegally. Why should employers be allowed to hire illegal aliens?”
Aristimuño responded by parroting the far-left’s agenda to legalize some 20 million illegal aliens overnight, which would conveniently encourage even more illegal immigration and create a new source of Democratic voters from law breakers.
After being called a racist who only sees Latinos as MS-13 gang members, Carlson finally had enough.
“This is just another stupid political talking point from a stupid person,” he declared, cutting off the interview.
“I don’t have time for conversations with people who don’t know what they’re talking about and haven’t thought it through, and want to come on and spew more talking points — and call anybody who disagrees a racist, which is what you did in the very first sentence of this segment. You’re pathetic,” he said.
It’s usually a bad idea for television pundits to lose their cool. However, Carlson’s indignation may have been entirely justified in this case.
It is one thing to politely disagree with someone and have a debate about the issues. It’s something else entirely for a Democrat operative to start an interview by calling the host a racist, and all but declaring that he has bigoted views without any evidence.
This was the most frustrated and fed up Carlson has appeared in a long time, but he did the right thing by shutting down the interview and rejecting that tainted rhetoric outright.
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