Trump Reveals the Very Moment He Knew Democrats Were Spying on Him: 'The Wires Were Burning Up!'


Former President Donald Trump told conservative talk show host Glenn Beck Tuesday the moment he knew for sure Democrats were spying on him.

“You said from the very beginning, ‘They’re spying on us.’ How did you know that was happening?” Beck asked during a phone interview for his radio show, wondering if it was just a “gut” instinct.

“I think it was a combination of things, but I tell you, the world blew up when I did that,” Trump responded.

Trump said the moment came during his 2016 contest against Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton when he was watching a television show — he did not identify the program — and “somebody suggested” that then-President Barack Obama’s White House was spying on the Trump campaign.

“I felt there was something strange going on, really strange, and I just put it out,” Trump said.

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“I got a call like two minutes later from the head of communications saying … ‘the wires are burning up. They’re smoking,'” despite it being a Saturday, as he recalled.

“And now I know why,” Trump continued. “Because, they said, ‘Oh my God, they caught us.’”

The FBI, under the Obama administration, launched an investigation in the summer of 2016 to determine if Trump’s campaign was colluding with the Russian government to win the 2016 presidential race.

A nearly two-year investigation conducted by special counsel Robert Mueller determined Trump’s campaign had not.

In October 2020, then-Attorney General William Barr appointed U.S. Attorney John Durham to investigate the origins of the Russia probe after testifying the investigation appeared to lack the necessary predicate to be undertaken by the FBI.

Barr said the Obama administration was spying on Trump, a member of the opposite political party, and the attorney general wanted to know why.

Durham has indicted three people so far in his probe: Michael Sussman, an attorney formerly with the Perkins Coie, a law firm with deep attachments to the Democratic Party and the Clinton campaign; former FBI attorney Kevin Clinesmith; and Democratic operative Igor Danchenko.

According to a Fox News report Monday, former Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe, a former Texas congressman who previously served as a federal prosecutor, told Durham on several occasions that he believed his office had passed on “enough evidence” to Durham to support the indictments of “multiple people” in relation to the origins of the Russia probe.

Ratcliffe’s office had provided Durham with more than 1,000 pages of material by October 2020, according to a Fox News report from the time.

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On Monday, Fox reported that “sources pointed to one key piece of declassified intelligence revealing that intelligence community officials within the CIA forwarded an investigative referral on Hillary Clinton purportedly approving ‘a plan concerning U.S. presidential candidate Donald Trump and Russian hackers hampering U.S. elections as a means of distracting the public from her use of a private email server.’”

According to a Friday court filing by Durham, the Clinton campaign hatched a plot to infiltrate computer servers at Trump Tower and later the White House in order to establish an “inference” and “narrative” linking Trump to Russia.

That information was then passed on to the FBI by Sussmann, according to Durham.

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“The Special Counsel’s Office has identified no support for these allegations” of wrongdoing by Trump, Durham noted in the court filing.

A tech executive brought in to conduct the server infiltration “indicated that he was seeking to please certain ‘VIPs,’ referring to individuals at Law Firm-1 and the Clinton campaign,” the filing states.

“Law Firm-1” is unnamed in the filing but is described as “a large international law firm that was then serving as counsel to the Clinton Campaign.” That describes Perkins Coie.

Was one of these VIPs Clinton?

In October 2016, the then-candidate tweeted at least twice in support of the false narratives as she tried to smear Trump just days before the election.

Trump’s instincts have proven right regarding a lot of matters, and it looks like they served him well again in relation to Democrats spying on his campaign.

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Randy DeSoto has written more than 3,000 articles for The Western Journal since he joined the company in 2015. He is a graduate of West Point and Regent University School of Law. He is the author of the book "We Hold These Truths" and screenwriter of the political documentary "I Want Your Money."
Randy DeSoto is the senior staff writer for The Western Journal. He wrote and was the assistant producer of the documentary film "I Want Your Money" about the perils of Big Government, comparing the presidencies of Ronald Reagan and Barack Obama. Randy is the author of the book "We Hold These Truths," which addresses how leaders have appealed to beliefs found in the Declaration of Independence at defining moments in our nation's history. He has been published in several political sites and newspapers.

Randy graduated from the United States Military Academy at West Point with a BS in political science and Regent University School of Law with a juris doctorate.
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